The waist is too small by an inch but the rest of the pants are big and a little baggy but not overly so. The mobility panel is weird and the soft squishy bits bulge weirdly when you bend over. The seem also rubs on your behind especially when it is hot. After wearing them for a month the panel is also pilling. That will be where the pants wear out the fastest. The men’s pants didn’t fit right either.

Who designed these?? They're horrible. It's not apparent from the photo but they have elastic stretch panels in weird places. Theres a stretchy gore in either side of the waistband, and a weird elastic crotch that wraps around to the back of your thighs in a horribly unflattering way. The top seam of this crotch panel hits the back of my thighs/underside of my butt with even slight movement. I think on a hike this would be unbearable. I returned them right away.

I dislike the new pant models with the cool flex rubber waistband. It is terrible. The pants fit at a weird spot on the hips and the waist is too big while the legs are too small. The pants are extremely stiff and the waistband has no flexibility. Bring back the old-style pant without the rubber in the waistband and the cotton the 100% cotton fabric.

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